So Tired….

Tired of trying to have fruitful debates with tea partiers, webforum libertarians, spiritual warfare christians, zealots of all stripes… and it seems the GOP has been overrun by these folks, I know they exist on the left too, but geez–it anguishes me, actually, I don’t want to give up, I don’t want to stop trying to have discussion with these folks, but it’s hard to have a discussion with someone for whom listening, really listening and considering what the other person is saying, even if it doesn’t fit your belief system, is considered a weakness. Typical conversations go like this: me: that’s interesting, here is another way to look at that; them: platitude/talking point that changes that subject. me: ok, well, that’s interesting, here is another way to look at that; them: platitude/talking point that changes that subject. And on and on and on, until I get frustrated and quit, or they start calling me names (this happens a lot, as anyone who tries to have these conversations can attest). What do I do? I don’t want to give up, I believe in talking and sharing ideas and learning new things, and in the power of dialogue to enrich our lives, but I am just about fed up with trying. What am I missing? If I adopt their debate pattern, it leads nowhere. Oh well. I’m just tired. I’ll keep trying.

I really enjoyed both box sets I listened to: Fats Waller:  If You Got to Ask You Ain’t Got It, and Bob Wills: Encore. They even mixed well together in the CD tray.

2 Comments

  1. Ken

    Amen, brother. It’s hard to argue with people that think facts are optional. As for libertarians……I always tell them they should head to a libertarian paradise and try it out for a while. I know of one: Somalia. Low taxes, minimal government intrusion.

  2. Aaron

    Geez – I know it. I am in 100% agreement with you. I believe that an honest conversation can humanize the other side. But there are some people who just do not have an open mind. They are convinced that they are right and the world must bend to their ideology/religion.

    My brother is one of “those people”…
    My brothers will not talk to me at all because he is like this over religion. I would try to talk with him saying, “I don’t believe how you believe, but that’s okay. Live and let live…” But he would not stop trying to argue with me. So we’ve stopped talking. I use to try to reach out to him but I got no response. It’s sad…

    Some people are unreasonable.

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